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Post by luigi on Jul 6, 2008 15:51:58 GMT -5
Personally, I consider black to not be a color. It's in space, and empty space is nothing. Nothing just happens to be black, and it doesn't reflect any color according to the laws of light...
So, is black a color?
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Post by Cloud on Jul 6, 2008 16:00:05 GMT -5
Doesn't every color start off as black? In the art world that is. LOL.
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Post by luigi on Jul 6, 2008 17:44:57 GMT -5
Yeah, you're not wrong...
It's really a matter of perspective. I just wanted to know what everyone else thought about this.
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Post by sheik on Jul 6, 2008 19:28:18 GMT -5
well no black is the absence of color.
quick facts about colors: all the colors shine on objects through light. A green object for example absorbs every color, and rejects green same thing for blue, it absorbs all colors and rejects what we see as blue. White absorbs none and rejects them all, and black absorbs them all (so doesn't reject any, so doesn't reject any color therefore NOT A COLOR)
but since white rejects them all and is "all of the colors" , by my theory white is a color but black isn't which is kindof weird but many people have different theories about this
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Post by Cloud on Jul 6, 2008 22:52:09 GMT -5
Now I'm confused.
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Post by sheik on Jul 7, 2008 3:21:35 GMT -5
haha i'm sorry if i didn't explain it clearly enough! please tell me which part i should explain again and i'll try to do it more clearly (if you actually care that is ^^ bc i have to admit, this is school material right there!! )
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Post by Cloud on Jul 7, 2008 10:26:37 GMT -5
haha i'm sorry if i didn't explain it clearly enough! please tell me which part i should explain again and i'll try to do it more clearly (if you actually care that is ^^ bc i have to admit, this is school material right there!! ) You can explain everything again. ;D
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Post by sheik on Jul 8, 2008 14:13:50 GMT -5
lool ok visible light is electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths of ~300 nm (near UV) through ~1400 nm (near infrared) in other words, there are photons, that have a lot of energy and vibrate a lot while traveling, their difference in wavelength is responsible for the different colors. All matter reacts differently when the light beams hits them, they absorb certain photons with certain wavelengths, and reject others. Take a blue piece of paper for example,(check with the picture while reading to understand better) it absorbs all the photons with wavelengths form ~740nm to 490nm (meaning the ones that would show red, orange, yellow, green) and absorbs all the photons with wavelengths that go from ~440nm to 390nm (purple). It absorbs all the photons with these wavelengths, and rejects all photons that have wavelengths from ~490nm to ~440nm, which are the photons who emit the color blue. so it kindof absorbs all colors and rejects blue, that's why we can see blue. It's the same for all colors, the absorb all the other "colors" (by colors i mean photons who have a certain wavelength, but each wavelength corresponds to a color, so i say color instead.) and reject the one we can see. Black absorbs ALL the photons, whatever their wavelength, and since, from what I explained before, a color is defined by the wavelength they reject, and black absorbs them all, and therefore rejects none (that is visible to our eyes lol but ignore this comment it might just confuse you, i just didn't want to give you wrong facts ^^) black is not a color. (btw the fact that black absorbs all wavelength of protons, is the reason why when u wear a black shirt in the sun you'll be much warmer than if u wear a white shirt) White is actually the opposite, it absorbs no color, and rejects them all instead, so it's more like all colors together when black is none. was that clear enough? if not read it slowly and a 2nd time if necessary, i think it shouldn't b too complicated normally. If it is, tell me which paragraph wasn't well explained.
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Post by sheik on Jul 8, 2008 14:14:33 GMT -5
lol i hope this is clear enough and u better actually read it! i didn't write all of this for nothing (yes i usually am lazy)
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Post by Cloud on Jul 8, 2008 15:37:50 GMT -5
I'm still lost cause I'm not really into science stuff.
And I did read it all. Even though it was painful.
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Post by sheik on Jul 8, 2008 15:42:36 GMT -5
lol hmm............ i'm sry i often explain stuff simply because it's obvious to me, and i can never get which part is confusing for the others so i don't know what to do to explain more clearly 4 ppl.... this is one of the reasons why i should never become a teacher ^^
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Post by sheik on Jul 8, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
and thanks 4 reading it all the way through that must have been reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal boring if u don't get it!
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Post by Cloud on Jul 8, 2008 15:45:11 GMT -5
lol hmm............ i'm sry i often explain stuff simply because it's obvious to me, and i can never get which part is confusing for the others so i don't know what to do to explain more clearly 4 ppl.... this is one of the reasons why i should never become a teacher ^^
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Post by Cloud on Jul 8, 2008 15:45:22 GMT -5
Your welcome btw.
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Post by sheik on Jul 8, 2008 16:13:11 GMT -5
yea well anyway, ex-luigi's argument was still good, (although i feel that it's more than a consequence than a reason but whatever ) i hope we changed your mind ^^ by the way, what are these artist's arguments about this?
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