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Post by Cloud on Jul 4, 2010 8:58:56 GMT -5
Ok so I was on this site and they were talking about DC Vs Marvel characters and who would win in a fight to the death. Everyone said that DC would win, but I don't see how that's possible if they would be up against the Phoenix. I mean, isn't she the strongest Marvel character?
I tried to look up Dr. Manhattan's powers cause I'm unfamiliar with him, but I couldn't really find much that would make me think that he's a match or even stronger than the Phoenix. I suppose if I understood more about the comics, I could vote, but what do you guys think?
Oh and btw, the Phoenix I'm referring to is Jean Grey.
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Post by rika2 on Jul 4, 2010 12:49:41 GMT -5
who?
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Post by cloud on Jul 4, 2010 16:49:54 GMT -5
Doctor Manhattan
Physicist Dr. Jonathan "Jon" Osterman was transformed into a blue-skinned god-like being after he was accidentally disintegrated in an "Intrinsic Field Subtractor" in 1959, as he had left a watch in there, and was accidentally trapped in the chamber. Within a few months, his disembodied consciousness managed to reconstruct a physical body for itself, after several earlier attempts, assisted in part (it is implied) by his childhood training in watch repair and a solid understanding of precision assembly and disassembly. He is immediately pressed into service by the United States government, who gives him the name Doctor Manhattan, after the Manhattan Project. He is the only character in the story who possesses real superpowers.[6] Though he dabbles briefly in crime-fighting, his greatest influence is to grant the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union during the Cold War, with his most significant action taking place after he is personally asked by President Richard Nixon to intervene in the Vietnam War, leading to an unqualified victory for the U.S. with the defeat of North Vietnam and the Vietcong, preventing the collapse of the Saigon government[4] and allowing the eventual annexation of Vietnam as the 51st state. Since he works for the U.S. government, he is exempt from the provisions of the Keene Act, but spends much of his time doing advanced technology research and development and physics research. He is single-handedly responsible for the shift to electric-powered vehicles (by synthesizing the needed elements and chemicals himself) and Veidt credits him with causing a huge leap forward in myriad areas of science and technology. After the death of his father in 1969, he does not bother to conceal his original name and is repeatedly addressed or referenced as "Jon" or "Dr. Osterman".
Doctor Manhattan was based on Charlton's Captain Atom, who in Moore's original proposal was surrounded by the shadow of nuclear threat. However, the writer found he could do more with Manhattan as a "kind of a quantum super-hero" than he ever could have with Captain Atom.[2] Moore sought to delve into nuclear physics and quantum physics in constructing the character of Dr. Manhattan. The writer believed that a character living in a quantum universe would not perceive time with a linear perspective, which would influence the character's perception of human affairs. Moore also wanted to avoid creating an emotionless character like Spock from Star Trek, so he sought for Dr. Manhattan to retain "human habits" and to grow away from them and humanity in general.[1] Gibbons had created the blue character Rogue Trooper, and explained he reused the blue skin motif for Doctor Manhattan as it resembles skin tonally, but has a different hue. Moore incorporated the color into the story, and Gibbons noted the rest of the comic's color scheme made Manhattan unique.[7] The blue skin color is explained as being a result of Cherenkov radiation. Moore recalled that he was unsure if DC would allow the creators to depict the character as fully nude, which partially influenced how they portrayed the character.[8] Gibbons wanted to tastefully depict Manhattan's nudity, selecting carefully when full frontal shots would occur and giving him "understated" genitals — like a classical sculpture — so the reader would not initially notice it.[9] Dr. Manhattan's forehead is marked with the atomic structure of hydrogen, which he himself put on, declining a helmet with the atom symbol.
In the Watchmen film, Doctor Manhattan is a CGI character modeled after Greg Plitt with motion capture and facial performance provided by Billy Crudup. Crudup also plays the pre-transformation Jon Osterman. [edit] Powers and abilities
Doctor Manhattan is the only character with super powers, though his powers are so advanced that they make him almost like a god. His consciousness has become linked to reality on a quantum level, allowing him to behave in the ways of sub-atomic particles, and have precise mental control over sub-atomic particles and forces, including the ones in his own body, allowing him to move objects using his mind. Uses of this power include matter transformation, teleportation of himself and others over astronomical distances, phase shifting and creating multiple copies of himself. When first seen, he has grown to gigantic size, over 60 ft. He is seemingly immortal and does not require food, water or air to survive. It is implied that he could create life. Perhaps the superpower that most defines his personality is his ability to see all along his own personal timeline at once, past and future. The only thing known to interfere with his ability to see the future are tachyons, high-energy particles that travel backwards through time, which could be made by nuclear detonations on a global scale (Ozymandias uses custom-made tachyon-emitters in satellites and at his Antarctic base specifically to trick Dr. Manhattan into thinking that a nuclear war was imminent). Dr. Manhattan is not omniscient, however, only knowing the past and future as it has or will occur for himself. This power to see the future is perhaps the greatest, and only practical, limit to Dr. Manhattan's powers: he does not take action or interfere because he knows that he will not, and feels and is as powerless to change the future as a normal person can change what they did yesterday. The result is that the most powerful man in the world, the literal super-man, has become indifferent to human concerns and feels increasingly less desire to interfere in human events.
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Post by Cloud on Jul 5, 2010 0:45:08 GMT -5
Manhattan is from Watchmen and Pheonix is from X-Men. If that helps any haha.
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Post by Cloud on Jul 5, 2010 0:45:49 GMT -5
Doctor Manhattan Physicist Dr. Jonathan "Jon" Osterman was transformed into a blue-skinned god-like being after he was accidentally disintegrated in an "Intrinsic Field Subtractor" in 1959, as he had left a watch in there, and was accidentally trapped in the chamber. Within a few months, his disembodied consciousness managed to reconstruct a physical body for itself, after several earlier attempts, assisted in part (it is implied) by his childhood training in watch repair and a solid understanding of precision assembly and disassembly. He is immediately pressed into service by the United States government, who gives him the name Doctor Manhattan, after the Manhattan Project. He is the only character in the story who possesses real superpowers.[6] Though he dabbles briefly in crime-fighting, his greatest influence is to grant the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union during the Cold War, with his most significant action taking place after he is personally asked by President Richard Nixon to intervene in the Vietnam War, leading to an unqualified victory for the U.S. with the defeat of North Vietnam and the Vietcong, preventing the collapse of the Saigon government[4] and allowing the eventual annexation of Vietnam as the 51st state. Since he works for the U.S. government, he is exempt from the provisions of the Keene Act, but spends much of his time doing advanced technology research and development and physics research. He is single-handedly responsible for the shift to electric-powered vehicles (by synthesizing the needed elements and chemicals himself) and Veidt credits him with causing a huge leap forward in myriad areas of science and technology. After the death of his father in 1969, he does not bother to conceal his original name and is repeatedly addressed or referenced as "Jon" or "Dr. Osterman". Doctor Manhattan was based on Charlton's Captain Atom, who in Moore's original proposal was surrounded by the shadow of nuclear threat. However, the writer found he could do more with Manhattan as a "kind of a quantum super-hero" than he ever could have with Captain Atom.[2] Moore sought to delve into nuclear physics and quantum physics in constructing the character of Dr. Manhattan. The writer believed that a character living in a quantum universe would not perceive time with a linear perspective, which would influence the character's perception of human affairs. Moore also wanted to avoid creating an emotionless character like Spock from Star Trek, so he sought for Dr. Manhattan to retain "human habits" and to grow away from them and humanity in general.[1] Gibbons had created the blue character Rogue Trooper, and explained he reused the blue skin motif for Doctor Manhattan as it resembles skin tonally, but has a different hue. Moore incorporated the color into the story, and Gibbons noted the rest of the comic's color scheme made Manhattan unique.[7] The blue skin color is explained as being a result of Cherenkov radiation. Moore recalled that he was unsure if DC would allow the creators to depict the character as fully nude, which partially influenced how they portrayed the character.[8] Gibbons wanted to tastefully depict Manhattan's nudity, selecting carefully when full frontal shots would occur and giving him "understated" genitals — like a classical sculpture — so the reader would not initially notice it.[9] Dr. Manhattan's forehead is marked with the atomic structure of hydrogen, which he himself put on, declining a helmet with the atom symbol. In the Watchmen film, Doctor Manhattan is a CGI character modeled after Greg Plitt with motion capture and facial performance provided by Billy Crudup. Crudup also plays the pre-transformation Jon Osterman. [edit] Powers and abilities Doctor Manhattan is the only character with super powers, though his powers are so advanced that they make him almost like a god. His consciousness has become linked to reality on a quantum level, allowing him to behave in the ways of sub-atomic particles, and have precise mental control over sub-atomic particles and forces, including the ones in his own body, allowing him to move objects using his mind. Uses of this power include matter transformation, teleportation of himself and others over astronomical distances, phase shifting and creating multiple copies of himself. When first seen, he has grown to gigantic size, over 60 ft. He is seemingly immortal and does not require food, water or air to survive. It is implied that he could create life. Perhaps the superpower that most defines his personality is his ability to see all along his own personal timeline at once, past and future. The only thing known to interfere with his ability to see the future are tachyons, high-energy particles that travel backwards through time, which could be made by nuclear detonations on a global scale (Ozymandias uses custom-made tachyon-emitters in satellites and at his Antarctic base specifically to trick Dr. Manhattan into thinking that a nuclear war was imminent). Dr. Manhattan is not omniscient, however, only knowing the past and future as it has or will occur for himself. This power to see the future is perhaps the greatest, and only practical, limit to Dr. Manhattan's powers: he does not take action or interfere because he knows that he will not, and feels and is as powerless to change the future as a normal person can change what they did yesterday. The result is that the most powerful man in the world, the literal super-man, has become indifferent to human concerns and feels increasingly less desire to interfere in human events. Ya know what sucks, they seem to give you a very vauge description of his powers. But you seriously think that he could beat Jean Grey?
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Post by Janeway on Jul 8, 2010 22:03:49 GMT -5
Doctor Manhattan Physicist Dr. Jonathan "Jon" Osterman was transformed into a blue-skinned god-like being after he was accidentally disintegrated in an "Intrinsic Field Subtractor" in 1959, as he had left a watch in there, and was accidentally trapped in the chamber. Within a few months, his disembodied consciousness managed to reconstruct a physical body for itself, after several earlier attempts, assisted in part (it is implied) by his childhood training in watch repair and a solid understanding of precision assembly and disassembly. He is immediately pressed into service by the United States government, who gives him the name Doctor Manhattan, after the Manhattan Project. He is the only character in the story who possesses real superpowers.[6] Though he dabbles briefly in crime-fighting, his greatest influence is to grant the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union during the Cold War, with his most significant action taking place after he is personally asked by President Richard Nixon to intervene in the Vietnam War, leading to an unqualified victory for the U.S. with the defeat of North Vietnam and the Vietcong, preventing the collapse of the Saigon government[4] and allowing the eventual annexation of Vietnam as the 51st state. Since he works for the U.S. government, he is exempt from the provisions of the Keene Act, but spends much of his time doing advanced technology research and development and physics research. He is single-handedly responsible for the shift to electric-powered vehicles (by synthesizing the needed elements and chemicals himself) and Veidt credits him with causing a huge leap forward in myriad areas of science and technology. After the death of his father in 1969, he does not bother to conceal his original name and is repeatedly addressed or referenced as "Jon" or "Dr. Osterman". Doctor Manhattan was based on Charlton's Captain Atom, who in Moore's original proposal was surrounded by the shadow of nuclear threat. However, the writer found he could do more with Manhattan as a "kind of a quantum super-hero" than he ever could have with Captain Atom.[2] Moore sought to delve into nuclear physics and quantum physics in constructing the character of Dr. Manhattan. The writer believed that a character living in a quantum universe would not perceive time with a linear perspective, which would influence the character's perception of human affairs. Moore also wanted to avoid creating an emotionless character like Spock from Star Trek, so he sought for Dr. Manhattan to retain "human habits" and to grow away from them and humanity in general.[1] Gibbons had created the blue character Rogue Trooper, and explained he reused the blue skin motif for Doctor Manhattan as it resembles skin tonally, but has a different hue. Moore incorporated the color into the story, and Gibbons noted the rest of the comic's color scheme made Manhattan unique.[7] The blue skin color is explained as being a result of Cherenkov radiation. Moore recalled that he was unsure if DC would allow the creators to depict the character as fully nude, which partially influenced how they portrayed the character.[8] Gibbons wanted to tastefully depict Manhattan's nudity, selecting carefully when full frontal shots would occur and giving him "understated" genitals — like a classical sculpture — so the reader would not initially notice it.[9] Dr. Manhattan's forehead is marked with the atomic structure of hydrogen, which he himself put on, declining a helmet with the atom symbol. In the Watchmen film, Doctor Manhattan is a CGI character modeled after Greg Plitt with motion capture and facial performance provided by Billy Crudup. Crudup also plays the pre-transformation Jon Osterman. [edit] Powers and abilities Doctor Manhattan is the only character with super powers, though his powers are so advanced that they make him almost like a god. His consciousness has become linked to reality on a quantum level, allowing him to behave in the ways of sub-atomic particles, and have precise mental control over sub-atomic particles and forces, including the ones in his own body, allowing him to move objects using his mind. Uses of this power include matter transformation, teleportation of himself and others over astronomical distances, phase shifting and creating multiple copies of himself. When first seen, he has grown to gigantic size, over 60 ft. He is seemingly immortal and does not require food, water or air to survive. It is implied that he could create life. Perhaps the superpower that most defines his personality is his ability to see all along his own personal timeline at once, past and future. The only thing known to interfere with his ability to see the future are tachyons, high-energy particles that travel backwards through time, which could be made by nuclear detonations on a global scale (Ozymandias uses custom-made tachyon-emitters in satellites and at his Antarctic base specifically to trick Dr. Manhattan into thinking that a nuclear war was imminent). Dr. Manhattan is not omniscient, however, only knowing the past and future as it has or will occur for himself. This power to see the future is perhaps the greatest, and only practical, limit to Dr. Manhattan's powers: he does not take action or interfere because he knows that he will not, and feels and is as powerless to change the future as a normal person can change what they did yesterday. The result is that the most powerful man in the world, the literal super-man, has become indifferent to human concerns and feels increasingly less desire to interfere in human events. Ya know what sucks, they seem to give you a very vauge description of his powers. But you seriously think that he could beat Jean Grey? It would be and interesting battle, but there's no doubt in my mind that Dr. Manhattan would be the victor in an engagement against Jean Grey.
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